The 29.84 ounce Glock 21 is slightly heavier than the 25.06 ounce Glock 17 unloaded. I can reload the .45 AUTO ammo for almost the same cost as the 9MM ammo, and it's much more fun to shoot. Remember, I like revolvers, too. WB300. In my experience, the only way it’s reliable is with 40s&w level loads. Polymer 80 PF45 Standard Glock 20/21 Pistol Frame kit. Glock itself has a cool history. Okay, so I’ve shot more than a few Glocks in my lifetime and the thing that sticks with me the most is that they are dead reliable and seem to always run. Hi 41mag fan, I do like 45 super and I had a Glock 21 that was very reliable with 45 super. Glock 17 (Gen 3) Glock 19 (Gen 3) Glock 21SF (Gen 3) Glock 26 (Gen 3) Glock 34 (Gen 4) Glock 40 MOS/Trijicon RM07 Glock 42 GSSF Member Recovering Glockaholic. They were mostly failures to feed. I still enjoy the Glock 21 GEN 3, especially when I just want to do a bunch of high volume blasting. The Glock 37 first appeared in 2003. Not the 20, however. Minuteman. W. WB300. So if a normal Glock 20 is too big for your hands (but a Glock 17 is not), try a Glock 20SF first before dismissing their 10mm lineup all together. Since 2011 I have had 5 Glock 20s, both gen 3 and gen 4. GLOCK 20 79 vote(s) 76.0% GLOCK 21 25 vote(s) 24.0% Thread Status: Not open for further replies. I had a Glock 20 gen 4. My guess is you have smaller hands which make holding a large framed gun not optimal and opening the door to limp wrist. And just like that, one of my favorite 10mms hit the market. I have big bore revolvers, too, but those are boat anchors, slow to reload, deafeningly load, have limited capacity and must be kept cleaner to be reliable (think sand or dirt inside the trigger housing). It is only listed as 1125fps so I'm probably losing a lot of 10mm goodness on it. Glock 20, 21, 20SF and 21SF (Glock Rail only) Glock 20 - Introduced by Glock in 1990, the Glock 20 was designed for American law enforcement who were adopting the powerful 10mm caliber. Most simply called themselves The People. I am a Glock fan with the gen 3 G-20SF and G-29 pre SF. When I don't feel like reloading I can buy S&B 10mm at my LGS for $18.99 per box. In fact the factory barrel was more reliable because of the slightly relaxed chamber area which aided in more reliable chambering. I ended up sellng the Glock 20 because I liked my 40 so much more. My usual hiking gun is a revolver, but I think I might throw it and run instead of shooting it. I have a G20 which I shoot often (but not as often as my 9mm's) so I'm curious. I read some where that the Gen 4 was the same as the SF but mine feels much better than the SF and does not feel or look the same to me .I am going to try and get a picture of all 3 frames side by side with the magazine out . That's pretty much the operating window of reliable performance for most 10mm's, regardless of make. I don't care for polymer, but while I was waiting for an IPSC Limited high cap 1911 to be built I used a Glock 20 for a full season. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. Joined Dec 14, 2018 Messages 2,859 Likes Apparently it went through that 10k round test without a glitch. I'm a pretty casual handgun shooter now, usually with one of my kids or a quick trip after work. This was necessary in order to accommodate the higher pressure of a 10mm cartridge. Hello and welcome to the forum tanker95. If you stay with 180 - 200 gr jacketed bullets at no more than about 1200 - 1250 fps, the G20 can be reliable. My experience shooting those loads at those velocities was no more reliable than any others. It could be a great woodsman’s sidearm and many use it for that but in my experience with five (5) of them it’s simply not reliable enough. Glock 40 Gen 4 MOS (G40 Gen 4 MOS) Modern Competition 4th Generation Handgun with Modular Optic System (MOS).45 ACP *Compatible w/ Glock 20 / 21 / 21 SF (models that have Universal Glock Rail)* I do not make my loads NUCLEAR, but 1,175-1,225+ FPS is plenty for me and the black bear country I live in. Once your Polymer80 PF45 80% Glock Frame is complete, simply add any Gen 3 Glock 20 or 21 pistol slide to the gun, and voila! Did you have failures to feed, failures to extract, stovepipes, failures to fully return to battery? The Glock 40 Gen4 is a 10mm long slide (a full 6-inch slide) allowing for a smooth shooting experience with little recoil. It was common to go through several mags without issue and then I would have a couple failures. So what happened? I’m still keeping my G19 but that 2.0 compact feels very good in hand. It still wasn’t reliable enough. I see that you tried various springs, but have you replaced the Glock OEM barrel with an aftermarket barrel that actually has the appropriate shoulder support? Although classified as a “full size” Glock model, the G-20 frame is larger and wider than the “full size” Glock 17 series. I can talk all day about how the Glock 20 can be better than the Glock 21 and vice-versa, but I’ll try and sum everything up in a few bulletpoints.The Glock 20 chambered for the 10mm will be the better pick under the following conditions: 1. I live in the country in Virginia and can shoot in my yard. Haven't shot it much, probably less than 300rds. For a period of months I was shooting literally every day. In 1990 Glock released the G20. We believe in personal liberty. Many shooters feel a special relationship with this timeless caliber. All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. Like most folks who have traveled the 10mm highway I tried an assortment of recoil spring combinations and magazine springs. We believe in the armed individual as the fundamental unit of personal liberty and human dignity. You can read more about that here. I enjoy the Glock 20 GEN 3 (10MM), as well, but it is not as easy on the ears, and pocketbook as the G21 is. I bought a Glock 40 MOS. My observation related to the negative comments on reliability is one that others have made as well: the proliferation of small company full power loads have sullied the reputation of an otherwise excellent cartridge a bit. You can also convert a Glock 20 to 357 sig or 40; but you can't go the other way around. It has never had a problem except with Buffalo Bore 220 hardcast. There are those who say their G20 has been flawless. Gen5 pistols feature over 20 design modifications from their Gen4 predecessors, including the GLOCK Marksman Barrel, nDLC finish, ambidextrous slide stop lever, the removal of finger grooves and a flared mag-well. I found that large framed GLOCKs fit my hand far more securely and comfortably than my first choice for GLOCK-flavored concealed carry ().When it comes to getting a grip on the gun, the G21SF (for Short Framed) is darn near perfect. Can't answer the original question as I don't have the FN, but I carry 185 +P in the Glock 30 and keep 230 +P in the Glock 21 house gun. The GLOCK 20 actually uses the same guide rod and recoil spring as the GLOCK 21, at 17 lbs., but the slightly heavier slide lets the G20 deal with the recoil a little better. This was always followed by disappointment the next time I went shooting. Oh, and almost three times the capacity! The gun is designed to run like any other Glock-style semi-automatic, thanks to a Locking Block Rail System … I enjoyed it very much but gave it up and went back to 9mm. And Glock 21 Vs Glock 20 Where to buy 2019 Ads, Deals and Sales. It was ok. I've carried a Glock 20 Gen4 for my last two backpacking trips to griz country. I discovered 10mm in the early 1990s when I had a Delta Elite. The GLOCK 21SF presents everything one would expect of a 45 Auto pistol. My personal preference is to drop some history-related knowledge on you before we dive into the model itself. I implicily trust my Glock 19, or 17 or 21. Occasionally I would get through a box of Underwood or Buffalo Bore without an issue and I would assume I had found the magic recoil spring weight. W. Joined: Feb 2014. But we’ll stick to just the G20 this time. A couple of years ago I shot a GLOCK 20 for the first time. A Glock 20SF feels A LOT more like a Glock 17 in your hand; albeit a beefier slide. Over time, those who chose the rougher freer life of the up country came to think of themselves as the Hill People. This happened over several years with five different G20s and their magazines. I put my hands on one this week and it fits me well. Ah, it’s conclusion time again. Grip is big for my hand and somewhat awkward but when I do what I'm supposed to it hits. Features. FAQ | Mailing List | Email | 888.464.1875. Glock 20 SF (G20 SF) Full-Size Handgun With Short Frame. I had a long relationship with the caliber in all the action shooting sports, and used it in every defensive handgun class I've taken to date. I cut the bottom of a G-Code Glock 20/21 holster to accommodate the longer slide (and obnoxious comp because I am a huge douche), it works mint after I clearanced the sight channel a little for those tall bois. That's why our suppliers are family owned American businesses that use American materials and employ other Americans. GLOCK 20 vs. GLOCK 21 : Imagine if ammo availablity and price were the same. If you need more horsepower than that, you really just need a different cartridge and I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Glock to do anything with the G20. Opinion needed on early Glock 20 (2nd Gen) pistols - 10mm semi-auto handguns - 10mm-firearms.com ... ('86-AK prefix) "pencil barrel" Glock 17, as well as one of the first Glock 21 pistols (WH prefix) with the 90 degree extractor cut in the slide. Signs of excessive pressure (the Glock smile at the case head) caused me to switch to after-market barrels. Large-frame Glocks are notoriously under sprung. I implicily trust my Glock 19, or 17 or 21. I have heard that the new G40 is more reliable and maybe one day I’ll try one but for now I’ll stick with 9mm with 45 being a distant 2nd as a woods sidearm. This is not acceptable. Anyway, that’s why I gave up on the G20 (until Glock can make improve it). However, I never really considered one as a serious hunting piece. G21 We also believe that personal liberty is very dependent on who you are taking your paycheck from. At the time, the .40 cartridge hadn’t yet caught on, and there was still considerable interest in 10mm AUTO for law enforcement use. The Glock 20 is a 10mm pistol, while the Glock 21 is a.45ACP. Yes the revolver guys will go ballistic over this. I haven't used any other weight 10mm ammo or changed recoil spring weights. GLOCK Gen5 pistols are the latest examples of GLOCK'S constant pursuit of perfection. I might try the new Springfield XDM 10mm. Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Greg8098, Oct 20, 2006. I used to reload so much of it that I kept my brass in large tubs stacked next to my reloading bench. The 10mm is a much more powerful round that for some reason never caught on. I suspect the average shooter might shoot a box or two through their g20 every couple of months at the range and from that conclude it’s reliable if they didn’t have any failures. Rating - 100%. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. Recoil is extremely manageable, thanks in large part to the weight and to the double recoil spring setup. You can read more about that here. Glock 29 Gen 4 (G29 Gen 4) Sub-Compact Handgun. citoriguy. GLOCK 21 SF (Short Frame) The “big bore” 45 Auto caliber has since long been regarded with a special reverence. Author Photo. The standard magazine capacity of the Glock 37 is 10 rounds. I may give the G20 a final chance one day and avoid all the redline rpm loads. Reactions: Ultrarunner and citoriguy. If your 3rd gen Glock 21 does not have the LCI, it can easily be upgraded too. Posts: 158. I've had no problems with mine...I shoot Hornady Critical Duty, Buffalo Bore and Corbon (the latter two are full power loads). I will add that I changed to a non captive Wolff Recoil system on both running 22 lbs springs for the 20 and 21 lbs dual springs in the 29 as they add more spring pressure at lock up and full recoil. Like most folks who have traveled the 10mm highway I tried an assortment of recoil spring combinations and magazine springs. My '21s also run both accurately and reliably with factory barrels, unlike the various '20s I've owned. I was relying on transferring skill from smaller frame Glocks with which I have a much higher round count. Mar 15, 2018 6,547 14,586 The Most Dangerous City in the USA. If you want a good plastic handgun out of the box without upgrades for hunting up to bear-size game; 2. (Never mind, I’m off the wagon) For God and Country. Not the 20, however. Offering incredible power for the their weights, the Glock 20 and 21 are impressive. 30 0 0. I know the Gen 3 and newer frames are the strongest, but I like the old school stuff the best. The Glock 20 can fit 15 rounds into a standard magazine, compared to 17 rounds for the Glock 17 and 13 rounds for the.45 ACP-chambered Glock 21. With the lighter slide of the G21, a slightly stiffer recoil spring should help manage the 10mm’s stouter recoil. When Gen 3 Glocks rolled around, changes got real. I know people complain about the GLOCK “bar of soap” feel. It is significantly improved from previous generations of the Micro Roni Stabilizer. Member. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Free FedEx Option* (0) D HUME 721OT 41 For Glock 20/21 BLK RH $ 33.77 (0) Pro i-dot Set for Glock 20, 21, 29, 30,31, 32, 36 Front is ProG $ 62.00 (0) Grip Enhancers New Style For Glock 20 and 21 $ 4.32 (0) Like I said, too, I might try the new XDM 10. Considering getting one of these two and looking for advice. So, that’s why I gave up on it and now use 40 or 9mm. It's either the 220gr loads, your size, or both in my opinion but I know the glock 20 is about as reliable as it gets without those factors. However with the long barrel, compared to the Glock 20, that means there is more weight, and the heavier gun defiantly changes the experience you have from shooting with a model 20 to shooting with a model 40. What about with watered down loads? The concern with the size of the Glock 20/21 has been addressed by the Glock 36, 21SF, and 30SF, all of which featured reduced-size frames. The GLOCK 20 was the first of the Austrian manufacturer’s large-frame pistols, appearing on the scene a few months prior to the GLOCK 21 in .45 AUTO. mostly failure to go into battery and nose up. 583 Posts . Read my ortiginsl post carefully and you’ll see it was with several Glock 20s. How can this be? For me, hunting handguns hold no more than six rounds, or five if chambered in a meaningful caliber. I have not calculated the percentage of reliability from my g20 experience but I would guess it’s around 85-90% reliable. It, too, uses a large bullet, but at much greater velocities (1150–1400fps). I installed a KKM stainless barrel, added nght sights, a Vickers mag release and extended slide release. That soaks up a lot of punch, and your hands will benefit as a result. I always loved the capability of the cartridge as an outdoorsman’s sidearm. Using small batch 700+ ftbs stuff of suspect quality control seems to be the consistent variable in these online comments I see from people expressing legitimate frustration. On the Gen 4 you can add the 41 as the same frame as the 20 and 21 Gen 4. Glock 41 Review: In the Hand Cartridges line up perfectly with the Glock’s feed ramp. Blackhawk 410013BKR For Glock 20/21 Black Carbon Fiber $ 38.34. I think Glock needs to reconsider the design around today’s modern full power ammo. I've still got a case of Norma ammo, and (I'm aging myself a bit) several boxes of FBI ammo that I bought new when Federal dumped it on the consumer market. Like Chris above I've been shooting the 10mm for 25 years, starting with the S&W 610 and the Delta Elite. Iveschris - I like the idea of a 21 with 10 conversion but I never tried it. Interesting info. THE BIRTH PLACE OF GERONIMO Re: glock 21 20 compatibility [Re: persiandog] #12314751 10/05/17: Joined: Feb 2014. Chuke discusses recent reports of Glock 20 10mm's blowing up My go to has been Corbon 10mm 200gr Hunter. It ran like a Swiss watch, even with my fake Crime Bill assembled magazines. WFNGC. I've read on line of folks doing the '21-conversion with a new barrel but don't know anyone who's actually done it. Out of all five Glock 20s I have owned, not one has been even close to being as reliable as my G19 (for example) with full power loads. There's also, at some point, potential issues with magazine spring tension. Member. I'm sorry to hear that the Glock 20 is losing its reputation as a benchmark in 10mm reliability. NES Member. Look back at my other posts to see the issues I had. Here is a trouble shooting guide:  http://aegisacademy.com/diagnosing-pistol-malfunctions-part-i-failure-to-feed/. Chris, something was wrong with that G20, IMO. Trigger pull is the same 5.5 pounds for the same pistols, and trigger travel is the same .49 inches. Then I function fire with anticipated ammo to make sure everything work. Dom, I did try a KKM barrel and had the same results. Fig Janitor of the Hide. In its full power loadings you basically have 357 mag ballistics with a bullet that’s 5 caliber sizes larger and a little heavier. 41magfan, I didn’t read your post carefully enough regarding the 180 and 200 grainers. I go up one increment of recoil spring weight (although I have several to try with the '20). Might convert my first build to one. Featuring High-Strength Reinforced Polymer Construction, Aggressive Grip Texture, Picatinny/STANAG Compliant Accessory Rail, and Complete Finishing Jig, Drill bits and End Mill Included. Compatible with Glock 20 and Glock 21 Gen3 components, the 80% pistol kit from Polymer 80 is an industry first. What do I think this is? The latter has a big, fat bullet (185–230gr) that travels at relatively slow speeds (650–900 fps). Also, what kind of failures are you getting? When humans first set foot in a new continent, they came in small groups under their own power, bringing only the gear they needed. I went back and read your other posts in this thread. It was designed to offer ballistic performance comparable with the .45 ACP in the frame size of the Glock 17. glock 20 or 21 cant decide on the glock 20 or 21, was leaning towards the 20. It was a fine pistol for its time. glock 20 glock 21 you can put a 21slide on the 20frame works just fine you can put a 20 slide on the 21frame works fine. I always wanted to build a .460 on a 1911. My 40 has been very reliable with Sig 180gr FMJ and Underwood 180gr ammo. Can I ask your height sir? This is important since going up in spring weight of course changes slide velocity. This was around 1996 or so. If they can't make a gun run on the boutique ammo I'm not sure anyone can. The G20 was very reliable with the watered down loads that were basically 40s&w level. None were more reliable than the rest. Chris, I am a revolver nerd, and your point about volume is well taken. Joined: Oct 3, 2006 Messages: 3,091 Location: That's for me to know and not you! I agree 100% about the velocity range of the 180 and 200. Georgia. Early Gen 3 guns had finger grooves and thumb rests, details I have been less than thrilled with because, let’s be real… One thing that hasn't changed is monotonous reliability in my 10mms. Am strongly considering trying out a S&W M&P 2.0 5" in .40 after reading Evan's experiences. Out of all five Glock 20s I have owned, not one has been even close to being as reliable as my G19 (for example) with full power loads. Neither The High Road nor any of its directors, members, managers, employees, agents, vendors, or suppliers will be liable for any direct, indirect, general, bodily injury, compensatory, special, punitive, consequential, or incidental damages including, without limitation, lost profits or revenues, costs of replacement goods, loss or damage to data arising out of the use or inability to use this forum or any services associated with this forum, or damages from the use of or reliance on the information present on this forum, even if you have been advised of the possibility of such damages. I have a Glock 20SF, which I load with 200gr. Discussion Starter • #1 • Jul 6, 2015. In all that time I've found the caliber to be close to flawlessly reliable in any platform. I’m buying the 2.0 Compact 40s&w tomorrow. cco45acp, funny you should mention that. I replace all of my recoil-spring assemblies for my '21s (EDC) and my '20 with steel guide rides and captive springs. I never had an issue with shoulder support. Bullet jam nose down, nose up, or just failure to return to battery? SoCalShooter Member. You've got a complete pistol. Glock 20 Gen 4 (G20 Gen 4) Standard, Full-Size Handgun. PX Member. I realize that claiming expertise on a forum is hollow, but I have read this and other 10mm threads on here with interest, as many of the experiences expressed are very different than my own. I have a hard time finding the time to reload and 10mm factory just costs too much to shoot a lot. Available for select Gen 3, 4, and 5 Glock models. I have a KKM barrel, and heavier recoil spring in mine. Glock 29 SF (G29 SF) Sub-Compact Handgun With Short Frame. They either got the exception to the rule, only shoot the low power stuff, have not shot enough, or are lying. That doesn’t matter though bc I tried many combos of recoil spring and mag springs and none made it nearly as reliable as the other glocks. As I mentioned earlier, my daily carry guns are revolvers. I did the personal math and decided since my '21s shoot heavier projectiles reliably at +P velocities, I'd gain too little from the conversion to 10mm going down in bullet weight to gain a little velocity and a round or two in magazine capacity. Don’t roll your eyes, there is nothing more valuable than reliabili… My teenage son who is just a little smaller than me has this problem with bigger guns. This lineup of OEM aftermarket Glock barrels includes variants for a wide array of Glock models and generations, with calibers available including 9mm, 40 S&W, 22LR, 357 Sig, and more. Shooting it very much but gave it up and went back and read your other posts to see issues! 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